Episode 17

Bubbly Talk

Published on: 11th December, 2023

Step into Clover Club with host Erika Audrey and bubbly guest Wendy from The Bubbly Talk. This episode is a tasty mix of food influencing, decoding tipping norms, mastering social media growth, and exploring the liberating world of being childfree. Join the conversation for a delightful rendezvous that'll leave you hungry for more insights and laughs!

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Transcript
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Welcome to Clover club, everybody.

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This is your host, Erica, and I am

delighted to be sitting here with my

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lovely friend, Wendy from the bubbly talk.

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Uh, when do you hire?

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Hi.

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Thank you.

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Wendy's nervous.

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Um, thank you so much for joining us.

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Well, I'm happy to be here,

but yes, a little nervous.

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I it's so surprising.

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So Wendy is, would you describe

yourself like a food influencer?

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Is that an accurate description?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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, I assumed Wendy would have done like a

million podcast and I'm like, oh my gosh.

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She said yes to do my podcast.

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And so I'm like, Wendy, like

you've done this before.

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Right.

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And she's like, Nope.

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And I'm like, oh my

God, this is a big deal.

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So we're getting unfettered

access to Wendy right now.

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And I just, if you're listening, I just

need you to know this is a big deal.

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Only because I love you.

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I, so I so appreciate that.

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The feeling is mutual.

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, so Wendy and I, we met a couple

years ago and then have been

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social media friends ever since.

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And then.

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I think we talked about this

Monday, but you know that my friend

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Brian lives in your neighborhood.

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Yes.

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So if you've listened to our

earlier episodes, Brian was

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on episode a five, I think.

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Adventures with Brian, the clown.

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That's what your neighbor?

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FYI.

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Oh my God.

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That's crazy.

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So I've got two people

from the same neighborhood.

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And so I'm like no big deal.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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David, you should listen to that one.

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It's pretty fun.

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It's all about travel tips

and you love to travel also.

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So yeah.

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So when do you obviously.

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You're into food.

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Just a little bit, just

a teensy, tiny bet.

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How did all of this start?

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So.

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I worked in the food industry

for a long, long time.

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Okay.

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Hostess waitress,

bartender events, manager.

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And so.

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I've been with my husband

for forever and ever.

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But when we, when we met, he owned a

restaurant in town and a nightclub.

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Okay.

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And so.

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We would either be at one of

his two spots all the time.

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And then he got invited to all of the

coolest events, like all the openings.

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He knew everyone.

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And.

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After we got married, he sold everything.

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Okay.

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And I missed.

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Like, I mean, I was like, we were

out seven nights a week till 4:00 AM.

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Yeah.

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And, um, I kinda missed that and

I missed all the new openings and

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everyone used to always ask me, like,

where should we go for date night?

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Where should we go for

girls night, happy hour?

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And I was like, you know what,

I'm starting this Instagram page.

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Just for fun.

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. And, , yeah, I just like slowly took off.

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How long ago did you start your account?

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, 2019.

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Okay.

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So that's like, not that long.

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And I didn't honestly, it

was private until:

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Oh, they're like the end of 2019.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So in that time you have really leaned

in and amassed quite a following.

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Did it come naturally?

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Was it really intentional?

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How did you do this?

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I don't know.

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Um, you know, when I first

started it just, I was clueless.

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. And Instagram used to be easy.

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You know, you take a

picture and that was it.

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You.

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Post a picture of a pizza you're done.

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Yeah.

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Now, like video stuff.

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I am not 20 years old and there used

to be like 15 of us influencers.

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Now there are hundreds in Atlanta.

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Yeah.

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It's just it.

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I mean, I can't keep up

and they're all young.

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They're all in their twenties.

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I yeah, no, I can't keep up with that.

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And at first it stressed me out

cause I do this full-time now

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this is what I do for a living.

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Yeah, and it, I mean, and some

days I still get stressed, but.

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I do the best I can.

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And I'm like, you know what?

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I still, get invited to events

like more than I can attend.

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I'm out seven nights a week.

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Pretty much.

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Yeah.

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And I make a good living with it.

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And you know, I'm not trying

to keep up with these kids.

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I'm too old for this.

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Just be yourself.

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Yeah.

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You can do.

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Yeah.

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A hundred percent.

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So yeah.

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, so, okay.

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You started it in 2019.

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How long did it take until you

were like, oh, this has legs.

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, this can be my only income source.

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Oh God.

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A couple of years.

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Okay.

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So , I started doing this full time.

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July of 2022.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So I had been working for an

it company for almost 10 years.

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Okay.

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After I got out of the restaurant

business, that's what I was doing.

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Worked from home.

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It was easy, whatever, but

boring, boring, boring.

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Yeah.

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And, , yeah, so 20, 22, I was so busy

and making pretty much the same as

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I was making with the it company.

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If not more.

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Okay.

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So my husband was like,

yeah, just give it a try.

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And here we are.

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, yeah, some weeks are better than others.

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Sure.

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Some ways.

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I'm like, why am I doing this to myself?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I don't know how people do it.

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Like the hiring process, trying to find

people for their places , especially,

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I'm just looking for a very limited

hours, you know, I don't need full time.

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I barely need like a, I don't

even know if you consider it.

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Part-time I need a kid.

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I need a kid in school.

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Yeah, it's just, it's hard

to find what I'm looking for.

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Will you tell us exactly

what you're looking for.

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So if someone's listening and know

someone, we can send them your way.

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Yeah.

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I just need someone with a flexible

schedule that has time at night.

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And likes to go to fun events and I

just really need assistance with videos.

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I really need help with my emails.

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If you send me an email and

you don't hear back for a few

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months, , I'm just flooded out.

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Like, yeah, I can't keep up.

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I'm like , trying to stay

above the water, but I can't.

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And yeah, just, , I send a lot of

pitches to companies like big brands.

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They'll be like, Hey, send us.

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your rape kit and send us

your idea for this project.

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Yeah.

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So you have to come up with a whole.

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Thing for them.

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And it's just, it takes a lot of time.

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, So is that typical?

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I think a lot of people who

aren't in your industry and by

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that, I mean, an influencer.

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, Uh, you know, we see the final

product, but we have no idea

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what happens behind the scenes.

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So it was that typical that you

would approach brands versus brands

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approaching you, or is it both of

like, How does that normally go?

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I would say out of the ones I

work with, I probably approach.

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15% maybe.

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Okay.

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If even that, but a lot of them

I'll get an email and they'll be

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like, we'd love to work with you.

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Especially a lot of travel stuff.

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Hotel groups.

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Tourism boards and things.

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But they want to hear.

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Yeah.

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They want to hear like, so this

is what we're thinking, but

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like, how would you do this?

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We want you to put

together a proposal for us.

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Okay.

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And what your rate would

be for these deliverables?

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Dada.

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And you got to put it together and it's.

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It's just, . I don't have time for that.

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And I'm half blind now, because

all I do is edit videos on my phone.

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Um, the camera and it's just,

it all takes a lot of time.

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It looks easy and fun, especially when

the videos now are like five seconds long.

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Totally.

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You don't know that took

hours to put together.

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That took me two hours.

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, I had, , Blake from it's our

Atlanta on a couple episodes ago.

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And he was like, I spent about

nine hours on each post and

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I'm like, that's so much time.

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And his page is not monetized.

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And I'm like, I don't think

anybody would realize that much

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work goes in behind the scenes.

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Yeah.

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, We, I can use myself as a great example.

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social media is not intuitive to me and

I've got personal social media, of course.

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And then, you know, my business

brands also have social media pages.

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None of them are, I

wouldn't say super popular.

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, like the people who follow us are our

real customers and, you know, we've

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got good engagement and all of that.

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But when it comes to growing and

scaling a social media presence,

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oh my God, it's so difficult.

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, and then you realize , a difference

between having a high follower account

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and having a high follower account.

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That's engaged in your stuff.

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And I think that that's, I just, it's so

overwhelming and once reels and Tik TOK

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and all of that came out and I realized

how much of that I would have to be doing

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on top of actually running my business.

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I was like, how do people do this?

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We don't.

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We lose our minds.

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We don't sleep like.

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Yeah.

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It's no, it's, , I mean,

and a lot of it's fun.

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Like I like doing the videos,

but like, this week, the holiday

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seasons really crazy, like sure.

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I mean, you talk about

invites to holiday bars.

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I love holiday bars.

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I love a holiday cocktail.

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But not seven.

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Yeah.

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I've been to 12 in nine days and I have.

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For more this week.

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Oh my God.

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I didn't even realize there

were that many in Atlanta.

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That's not even half of them.

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And I only went to one

that's outside the perimeter.

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Cause I normally, you know, I

don't, I don't go out there.

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It's too far.

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Well, especially when it's like,

come drink, like, I'm sure you have

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to be mindful of like, oh, I want.

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I talked to her yesterday.

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I barely drank anything

just cause I was by myself.

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Like, okay, let me tell you.

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I went to cute little spot, but.

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I was there at three in the afternoon.

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Everyone's just back from the holidays.

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Noah could go with me.

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They sat me in an igloo by myself.

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It was ridiculous.

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I was cute, but can I

sit at the bar please?

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I was sitting in this little

igloo by myself with an eggnog.

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Like for the love of God,

I was just put me inside.

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Hi.

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Yeah.

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You're like, I can take a video

of this igloo, but I don't need

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to be like sitting alone with.

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Oh, my God.

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It was hilarious.

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That's so funny.

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Do you ever get invited to do

things where you're like, fuck no.

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Oh, every day, really?

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We just don't respond

to those, like, okay.

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Is there, , has anybody of course no

name dropping or anything, but like

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have what is the craziest pitch or

request or whatever that you've gotten.

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Oh, God.

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I mean.

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I get, I don't know.

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I get asked all the time to go,

like to Duluth for a smoothie.

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Will you do two videos for us?

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Like what.

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And I don't charge local

restaurants to work with them.

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Yeah.

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So basically an exchange for my time

videos, posted stories posted for you.

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You know, they just provide free meal.

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And drinks.

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Yeah, and it's not unlimited,

you know, there's a cap.

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Sure.

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But like, you know, I'm not

driving two hours for a smoothie.

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And doing, you know, spending

hours of videos, hours of my car.

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Like that's just crazy.

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Yeah.

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You know, they think you're rude.

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So I just don't respond.

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Like if you tell them, oh, that's

too far, like just don't respond.

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Like it's just nicer.

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Uh, I am sure you know who Keithley is.

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Yeah.

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He, I, and I, I like that he does this,

but before he reviews a restaurant,

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he'll be like, this place has been

blowing me up for like two years

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and he'll take a screenshot of the

DMS and you'll see like, Dozens of

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messages from the same restaurant.

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Being like, please come, you know, dah.

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Um, which I think is super interesting,

but I knowing that him and you and

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everybody like this, it's like,

I'm sure your DMS are on fire.

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Like.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to, I'm not Keith Lee.

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I'm like, ah, they're not

bad on fire, but no, I do.

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I do get a lot, but I try

to stay on top of mine.

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Um, And I mean, honestly, like

if I'm not interested, I will,

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you know, I'll politely decline.

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Yeah, or I just won't respond and oh,

and also like, if someone's not following

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me and I'm not, if we're not following

each other, it goes to my junk mail.

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Which I never checked.

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It goes to like a request thing.

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Yeah.

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So I just, otherwise I

was getting too flooded.

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So I'm like you have to follow me

and send me a message properly.

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Email me, like if I don't respond

email because I don't have time.

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Yeah.

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But I try to respond to

everything I can, but sure.

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I just slotted.

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It's a lot.

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We it's kind of similar for the Hawkinson

Kluver, Instagram brands that don't

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follow us, that we don't carry will send

us like, Hey, like, will you consider

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carrying our candles or whatever the thing

is, And, you know, a couple of times a

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year, I'll go through that junk folder

and I'll see all of these messages, but

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I'm like, you got to at least follow me

and just like make a personal connection

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before you're asking me exactly.

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Um, you know, it's just, it's.

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The etiquette, I think behind this

type of stuff is new and some people.

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I don't know if it's even that they don't

get it, but I think we just have different

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expectations of how these interactions

should go and what makes people feel.

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, Interested in connecting, you

know, I think they don't get it.

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And also I get so many emails

that don't even say, hi, Wendy.

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They just say, Hey, hello.

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They're just like, they're sending a mass.

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Yeah, and I just can't stand those.

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I agree.

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I'm like, I mean, you

don't even know my name.

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Just put this much effort into it.

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I agree.

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I couldn't email the other day

that was like, I think our brands

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would be a really good fit, dah.

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And it was a bunch of like kids

clothes made in China and I'm

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like, there's two things about me.

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You need to know.

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I don't sell a bunch of

cheap shit made in China.

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It looks like literally goes

against my brand values.

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Also.

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I am not a kid person.

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I am not about that kid lifestyle.

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I lead with that.

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Everybody who knows me knows

I don't fuck with kids.

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Here here.

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Well, yeah, I was going to say, so

you and your husband, you've been

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together for 14 years, 14 years.

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, , uh, my husband sat me down very early

in the relationship and he's like, Hey.

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So I'm really starting to like

you and I just, I don't want

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this to be a deal breaker,

but , he's like, I don't want kids.

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And I was like, well, good news.

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Maybe because I don't want them either.

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So, okay, Wendy, you like

food, you don't want kids.

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You a.

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Then we should leave that part out.

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Well, you know what?

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This is something that I have

found is really interesting.

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And I'm sure you've noticed this

as a woman who doesn't have kids

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that , that's a topic that comes up

a lot, , whether you like it or not.

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And I have found that by being vocal

about not wanting a kid lifestyle, It's

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allowed a lot of other people to be

like, I feel the same way, but I feel bad

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saying that because especially as women,

there's this expectation to procreate.

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And so you've got to strike a

balance because of course you

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don't want to be annoying about it.

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But , I do think it's important to

be honest about it and to not be.

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Bashful about enjoying your kid-free life?

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, yeah, no, it's just not for me.

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Like.

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Plain and simple.

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Yeah.

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Like having your one to five kids.

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That's you.

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That's what makes you happy?

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I'm completely content.

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This is the life that

I've always dreamed of.

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And I'm, you know, I'm happy with it.

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Me and my husband, my dog, like

I'm very, I'm an only child

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I'm very close with my parents.

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Like.

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No, I like, sorry.

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Yeah.

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I love not apologizing for it.

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Like north.

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You know, you be happy doing

you I'll be happy doing me.

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Yes.

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I'm not trying to rub it

in your face, but yeah.

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Oh, it's definitely you notice

though, when you get older and

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everyone does start having children.

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Like all these friendships

you have change.

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Oh yeah.

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Necessarily end, but friends that

I used to see and talk to all the

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time now, it's like, I see you

once every year and you live.

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20 minutes away.

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It's a natural evolution.

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And you're just like

different seasons of life.

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Yup.

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Okay, Wendy, , I I've mentioned earlier

that before I do, uh, some of these

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episodes I'll do a poll or like a

question ask on my Instagram and have

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people send in questions for people.

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So would you like to

answer some questions?

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Sure.

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We're going to start easy.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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What does a typical day look like for you?

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so . It depends on what

my events are for the day.

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And I, I normally only have maybe

one day a week that I have no events.

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Is that intentional, like you try

to keep a day clear or sometimes

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it just happens that way.

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No, I tried it.

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I mean, I wish I had two or three.

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It's getting crazy, but no,

I try to have at least one.

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, and lately I haven't had one.

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, I haven't had a night off.

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About four weeks.

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Oh my God.

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Yeah.

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Not one.

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What's up Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, no nights, no days off.

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Okay.

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Yeah, but normally.

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Normally, if I do an event at night,

like I'll a dinner, had a restaurant.

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I will edit most of the day.

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I'll do one or two videos.

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So I'm probably editing

for five hours or so.

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And then I answer emails.

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Any proposals I need to get together.

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Then I get ready for dinner.

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Go to dinner.

446

:

And get that going.

447

:

And yeah, that's kind of a typical day.

448

:

, some days I have lunch.

449

:

And dinner events.

450

:

, But yeah, that's kinda how my day

is all blurred together right now.

451

:

My husband's like, I

can't even keep track.

452

:

What do we have this week?

453

:

Is he your go-to date

for all of this stuff?

454

:

Do you do some of it alone?

455

:

Like what's your preference?

456

:

, my preference is him because he is.

457

:

You know, he knows how to help

me with my videos and he knows

458

:

all the angles I LA trained.

459

:

He's.

460

:

He's been trained very well

and he's such a big help.

461

:

Oh God.

462

:

Bless him.

463

:

But, , you know, , friends

will go with me sometimes.

464

:

I go by myself.

465

:

Occasionally.

466

:

I don't like going by myself.

467

:

Just one.

468

:

It's not fun to drink by yourself.

469

:

Yeah.

470

:

And eat by yourself.

471

:

It's not my favorite thing.

472

:

, But also , I do need help.

473

:

Like if I need a cheers, you know, I

need someone to do the chairs with.

474

:

If I, if you know, I like being

in the video sometimes like

475

:

doing a noodle pool or whatever.

476

:

So you need help with that.

477

:

So, yeah, I prefer to go with someone.

478

:

My mom occasionally goes with me.

479

:

She lives very close by.

480

:

She loves going.

481

:

Yeah.

482

:

But yeah.

483

:

So yeah, that's kinda how it goes.

484

:

. Some are busier than others.

485

:

If I have certain projects like, oh,

this past week has been a killer.

486

:

Like, I don't know why I agreed to so many

things that were due in the same week.

487

:

So, yeah, and I always I'm really

bad and I'm kinda like, uh, under

488

:

pressure, you know, I do better.

489

:

Yeah.

490

:

Yeah.

491

:

So I'll have like five projects.

492

:

I've had these projects for months.

493

:

And I don't, I don't start editing or even

recording some of them until like day of.

494

:

I mean, yeah.

495

:

Yeah, my husband loves it.

496

:

Yeah.

497

:

Go go, go.

498

:

He's no, he's like, what's wrong with you?

499

:

He's like, why do you do this every time?

500

:

I got, I don't know, maybe ADHD.

501

:

I tell them that all this.

502

:

Yeah.

503

:

It's just how my brain works.

504

:

I'm the same way.

505

:

Like it, I could have three years to

prepare for something, but it's going

506

:

to be 24 hours before somebody needs to

see it that I'm like, it's good to set.

507

:

I can't summon the intellect or

energy if I don't have that pressure.

508

:

Which I do think is a sign of ADHD.

509

:

Oh, I mean, it's got to be, I

mean, it's something I'll tell you.

510

:

Yeah, I'll be in the shower, like

thinking about my to-do list and

511

:

I'll literally like, get the shakes.

512

:

I'm like, oh, for the love

of God, I did it again.

513

:

That's a very relatable.

514

:

Okay.

515

:

So a typical day for Wendy

is editing, eating and having

516

:

anxiety about what's due.

517

:

Yep.

518

:

Perfect.

519

:

, okay.

520

:

Let's move on to our next question.

521

:

, oh, I like this one.

522

:

What is something that people would be

surprised to learn about what you do?

523

:

There's a lot.

524

:

Well, one that it takes, I mean, you see

the videos cause I mostly post videos and.

525

:

Oh, they look cute.

526

:

They look fun.

527

:

And yet.

528

:

You know, everyone's like, oh, I want

to do this, but it's a lot of work.

529

:

Like it really is like one, five

second video took me two hours

530

:

to do plus the restaurant visit.

531

:

Plus, you know, the stories into it.

532

:

You know, plus just getting

the restaurant visit set up.

533

:

That was 15 emails between the PR agency.

534

:

Like, uh, yeah.

535

:

And then a lot of them will

ask your insights from the

536

:

video and stuff afterwards.

537

:

It's something.

538

:

It's a whole process and it

just, so one restaurant visit.

539

:

That's six hours of my time.

540

:

Yeah.

541

:

So, and you know, if the food's mediocre

it's like, damn, was that worth it?

542

:

I don't think so.

543

:

That's a good point, especially like you

said, you don't charge local restaurants.

544

:

Cause you're trying to bring attention

to them and help with publicity.

545

:

But if they're not good and

are not getting paid and it's

546

:

just a comped, not good meal, I

could see you being like, yeah.

547

:

Yeah.

548

:

And that'll, that'll be the

thing there'll be like, okay.

549

:

I go, I'll go to three in a row.

550

:

And they were just like, yeah.

551

:

Whatever.

552

:

And then, but then also like

lately I've been to some really,

553

:

really impressive restaurants.

554

:

Which is, which is nice because

after you go to three, like so-so

555

:

ones in a row, it's like, all right,

Atlanta, get your act together.

556

:

What's going on here.

557

:

No, it doesn't.

558

:

We have some great places in Atlanta,

but it's just, you know, And N you know,

559

:

my husband and I have a whole list of

places that we just like to go on our own.

560

:

Right.

561

:

But you really, we.

562

:

We barely have time to go to our

favorite local places anymore

563

:

because I'm invited out every night.

564

:

And, , yeah, we just found,

we found a great new bar.

565

:

We love last week and we're like, damn,

like we gotta come back here more.

566

:

And he's like, we don't have time.

567

:

Like they have to go to that mid bar.

568

:

We got to go to this new bar.

569

:

But you know, it's just, it's checking

out new spots all the time and you

570

:

just never know what to expect.

571

:

Some turn out amazing.

572

:

Some are mediocre.

573

:

Some are just, Ooh.

574

:

I won't go back.

575

:

It's no secret that I am a food

snob and just a general snob.

576

:

I have an issue with Atlanta that I have

is there, there's no shortage of new

577

:

spots, but I think that it's how were we?

578

:

Cool.

579

:

And Instagramable and not is this

legit good food with solid service?

580

:

Because that to me is so much

more important than that.

581

:

Like an aesthetic.

582

:

That's just the icing on the top.

583

:

Yeah, I agree.

584

:

Yeah.

585

:

I say all the time, I'm like, I'd rather

go to Buford highway on like cracked.

586

:

No Liam.

587

:

And eat noodles.

588

:

Some grandma just made.

589

:

With zero Instagramability.

590

:

Yeah, that's good.

591

:

Over a grass wall and our neon signs.

592

:

I hear ya.

593

:

If you're listening and you have a

grass wall and a neon sign, it's over.

594

:

Sometimes I think that

baby, I'm a food snob.

595

:

But I mean, You know, I'm from Tennessee.

596

:

I was a little girl.

597

:

I grew up.

598

:

I just love to eat.

599

:

I love food.

600

:

I just love, I mean, I used

to enter eating competitions.

601

:

Like I can eat.

602

:

I can eat and I, you know, not as much

as I used to, but I just love food.

603

:

I love the art of food.

604

:

I think it's beautiful.

605

:

What you can do with food.

606

:

I agree.

607

:

You know, I just love watching chefs like.

608

:

Do their art, like, I just love it.

609

:

, but sometimes Atlanta, I mean, we do have

some really incredible restaurants, but.

610

:

I just feel like people

here sometimes just.

611

:

I don't know, they're

just not impressed by.

612

:

Like the really, really good

restaurants sometimes like

613

:

the mediocre ones do better.

614

:

Which doesn't make sense to me.

615

:

I just, I don't get it.

616

:

I, I don't know.

617

:

I don't know if it's just me or

I don't know what it is, but.

618

:

I like, how does this place do so well?

619

:

Is it location?

620

:

Like, is it, you know,

like my food was cold.

621

:

Like every time, every time it's called.

622

:

The fries are limp.

623

:

What's going on.

624

:

Yeah, there is a spot that I will

not name that is very popular.

625

:

And I went and I sat down.

626

:

I was having dinner with two girlfriends

and, , I was the first person there

627

:

and they seen me at this table.

628

:

We had a reservation, , The tablecloth.

629

:

You know, when you leave clothes in the

dryer and they're like wrinkly as fuck.

630

:

Yeah, it looks like that

happened like to the 10th degree.

631

:

Like it was the wrinkly as

tablecloth I've ever seen.

632

:

The silverware was all jacked up.

633

:

It literally looks like

Helen Keller's at this table.

634

:

Like.

635

:

I was like, is this correct?

636

:

Like, am I allowed to be sitting here?

637

:

Like, are you done?

638

:

Like, is this it?

639

:

And then I'm there.

640

:

The food was so boring and I left

and I'm just like, That wasn't cheap.

641

:

And I don't care about the price

if it's good, but I was just

642

:

like, how is this so popular?

643

:

And I think it's just good

marketing, good networking.

644

:

And , if you can create the vibe that

it's like, oh, people think this is cool.

645

:

, I think it's like, Some sort of amnesia

happens when the food is actually bad

646

:

and people are like, that was cool.

647

:

Right?

648

:

I think that was cool.

649

:

Yeah.

650

:

Yeah.

651

:

Yeah.

652

:

That was cool.

653

:

I'm gonna put on Instagram.

654

:

Yeah.

655

:

And that's what you're right though.

656

:

I think a lot of it is vibes.

657

:

Cause I mean, Atlanta's got a lot of.

658

:

We've got a lot of nice looking

Yeah, a hundred percent Instagramable

659

:

like gorgeous and some of them

just the food doesn't hit the mark.

660

:

Yeah.

661

:

Um, or the server, like, they're

just, they're desperate for servers.

662

:

Uh, yeah, or just any

hosts, like it just workers.

663

:

Um, and I just, yeah, I mean, you can't.

664

:

That's the hard thing, especially

like, after COVID everyone

665

:

else looking for workers.

666

:

And so it was really hard when you

had to be like, okay, well, you know,

667

:

can't be hard on them because the

service was bad because they have,

668

:

you know, they're hiring, right.

669

:

Like everyone's hiring, but

now I feel like it's coming

670

:

back, they're still struggling.

671

:

But yeah, it's just, uh, I don't know.

672

:

That's kinda how I judge it.

673

:

When I go to places I'm

like, how was the service?

674

:

How are the vibes like, oh, I'm

a big, big critic on the drinks.

675

:

Like sweat.

676

:

A place recently that batches, their

cocktails on a Tuesday when they're dead.

677

:

And I about lost my.

678

:

Not about lost it.

679

:

I'm like you're batching my margarita.

680

:

No.

681

:

At the very least don't let me know.

682

:

That's what's happening.

683

:

I was like, this is just

really, this is really sweet.

684

:

I can't drink it.

685

:

And she's like, oh, well, there's

nothing we can do about that.

686

:

I was like, Did the bar tender go home.

687

:

Yeah.

688

:

And she's like, well, you

have to be sending Steve.

689

:

They were dead and she's like, well,

you have to be sitting at the bar.

690

:

When the bartender to

remake your drink properly.

691

:

I'm sorry.

692

:

I about lost it.

693

:

Yeah.

694

:

I was just like, what?

695

:

It's like a personal endeavor

or somebody who had asked you to

696

:

come to their business personal.

697

:

Okay, good.

698

:

Yeah.

699

:

I yeah.

700

:

They actually, they tried to make it

better and the manager came over to me and

701

:

he's like, oh, like, we made it for you.

702

:

Like, how is this?

703

:

And it was still sweet to sell.

704

:

But, you know, I appreciate it.

705

:

Sour mix.

706

:

Yes, it was, I appreciated the

effort, like, you know, The place was

707

:

pretty cool, but, uh, yeah, I don't

know about the drinks next time.

708

:

I'll just get like a vodka soda, but yeah.

709

:

But sad.

710

:

Yeah.

711

:

But yeah.

712

:

You know, it's like when I get invited

these places you got to, you know,

713

:

sometimes the service is a really big

thing for me since I was in the service.

714

:

Yeah.

715

:

Part of it for so many years.

716

:

So, and you know, my husband

owned a restaurant, so it's like,

717

:

that's really important to me.

718

:

Absolutely.

719

:

And that's, that's part of the experience.

720

:

That's like part of why you go out, that's

part of what makes it just enjoyable.

721

:

Yes.

722

:

You know, otherwise you can

make whatever you want at home.

723

:

That's correct.

724

:

And.

725

:

And sometimes better.

726

:

Oh, yeah.

727

:

That you can make it

exactly how you want it.

728

:

And it's just like, all right.

729

:

Like, I want this to be good.

730

:

Like put a smile on your face,

like try, like we're paying

731

:

or, you know, I'm obviously I'm

paying in services like that.

732

:

I'm.

733

:

I'm doing videos for you.

734

:

I'm promoting for you guys, , you

know, at least try, but.

735

:

Yeah, but sometimes you don't get that.

736

:

And so, yeah, it's just it, I always

look at like, what's the food?

737

:

Good.

738

:

Was the service go like, and if

it's not, you just got to all right.

739

:

Well, I'll post.

740

:

I just won't mention this.

741

:

Like, And I've always mentioned

if the service is good.

742

:

Good.

743

:

I want to make a note of that.

744

:

And I want that to be, you know, We

went to a few places lately and the

745

:

service has just been phenomenal.

746

:

So I'm like, all right, Atlanta,

you're stepping up your game.

747

:

I love it.

748

:

That's good.

749

:

Yeah.

750

:

I've been saying I'm like the good

servers in Atlanta work at like

751

:

bones and they've been there for 25

years and they're like, Oh, yeah.

752

:

Yeah.

753

:

I've got a good thing going here.

754

:

Yeah.

755

:

Um, and there's just kind of this.

756

:

And I'm generalizing, of course,

but this vibe of I'm serving

757

:

here until my next real thing.

758

:

And there's not, I maybe it's a pride

thing because to me, no matter what job

759

:

I'm in, and maybe this is because I'm also

in an extension of the service industry.

760

:

Like no matter what my job is, I'm

showing up and I'm giving 110%.

761

:

And I guess not everyone feels

that way, but yeah, it can make

762

:

or break an otherwise good meatal.

763

:

Oh, yeah, a hundred percent.

764

:

That's always one of my biggest

pet peeves when I go to a place.

765

:

That's the number one thing

I look for, to be honest.

766

:

Yeah.

767

:

I'm completely with you.

768

:

I you'll get a kick out of this.

769

:

I went out for drinks with a

friend a couple of weeks ago,

770

:

and I ordered an Americano.

771

:

That's my go-to cocktail

Campari for Muth soda.

772

:

Very simple.

773

:

Classic cocktail.

774

:

Yeah.

775

:

And the guy was like, what?

776

:

And I was like, uh, An Americano,

like, you know, and I explained

777

:

to him the ingredients and he

was like, oh, we can't make that.

778

:

And I was like, okay.

779

:

And I've heard this before.

780

:

And so I know a little hack.

781

:

And so I said, okay, can

you make an a groany.

782

:

And he's like, oh yeah, for sure.

783

:

And I was like, perfect.

784

:

So here's the deal?

785

:

And Americano is a fucking Negroni

with no gin add soda on the rocks.

786

:

And he was like, I don't

know if we can do that.

787

:

And I was like, oh my God,

please just ask your bartender.

788

:

If not I'll order, you know, something.

789

:

I guess I.

790

:

Or whatever, but like, I just want my

drink goddamn, like this shouldn't be.

791

:

It was the craziest conversation though.

792

:

Cause like his brain was still

not connecting the fact that the

793

:

ingredients are under this roof.

794

:

Like just confirmed that.

795

:

This, isn't a wild request.

796

:

Um, uh, so I don't know.

797

:

Alright, let's see what our next question.

798

:

Yes.

799

:

Okay.

800

:

What happens if you

don't like a restaurant?

801

:

So if I go and everything is a fail, like

services, bad foods, bad drinks, bad.

802

:

I've had this happen.

803

:

Four or five times in the

entire time I've been doing it.

804

:

Oh, wow.

805

:

I refuse to post.

806

:

And I sent a very polite,

but very detailed.

807

:

Reason why.

808

:

You know, like, I'm sorry.

809

:

Like if I post about this place,

people will go and I will get

810

:

blamed because I recommended it.

811

:

Yeah.

812

:

And that's the thing, because I

have recommended places in the

813

:

beginning when I first started

doing it and I, I shouldn't have.

814

:

You know, like I did have

a bad experience and.

815

:

People come back either.

816

:

They unfollow you they're.

817

:

You're like, I can't trust you.

818

:

Yeah.

819

:

They're like, We don't.

820

:

You don't know what you're talking about.

821

:

Or they'll comment.

822

:

I mean, God, I, one of my biggest

posts ever last year of a taco place.

823

:

Oh my God.

824

:

Some of the comments I got

rude, rude comments about these

825

:

people don't even know me.

826

:

And they're like this, this

little Southern hick girl doesn't

827

:

know anything about tacos.

828

:

The only place you can get

tacos is Buford highway.

829

:

And I was just like, I'm

not saying this is the.

830

:

Best tacos.

831

:

The food of my people either.

832

:

Yeah.

833

:

I'm just, I'm just naming a place that

you can get some pretty good tacos.

834

:

Whoa.

835

:

In my opinion.

836

:

I mean, I am not a taco expert.

837

:

I don't eat tacos daily.

838

:

But I do appreciate a good taco.

839

:

Yeah.

840

:

Don't we.

841

:

This is my page, my opinion, but,

oh, I got some really mean comments.

842

:

So people like that have hundreds

of thousands of followers or

843

:

Millie, like celebrities got out.

844

:

I don't know how they do it.

845

:

Yeah.

846

:

Oh God, I couldn't do it.

847

:

Like if you get mean comments

like that all the time.

848

:

Be able to handle it.

849

:

Luckily I don't get that

many, but that's good.

850

:

Wow.

851

:

I was just like, man,

these people are brutal.

852

:

Oh, I did a post about

downtown Atlanta this year.

853

:

Oh God.

854

:

I think I oh.

855

:

I got some really main comments on that.

856

:

Do you reply to the mean comments?

857

:

Do you delete them?

858

:

Do you leave them up?

859

:

Like how do you handle that?

860

:

It depends.

861

:

There was one.

862

:

There was one really main one about

the downtown one calling me like

863

:

a dumb bitch or something that

doesn't know anything about the

864

:

city saying I didn't even live here.

865

:

What.

866

:

I was like, son,

867

:

I've been on this earth longer than you.

868

:

I've lived here longer than you.

869

:

And I was like, I live

five minutes from downtown.

870

:

Yeah.

871

:

And I was like, I'm literally saying,

yeah, I was like, and I actually

872

:

mentioned no one reads the captions

of videos and they just don't.

873

:

And I S I actually say in

the caption that parking.

874

:

Because it was about like

cheap things to do in the city.

875

:

I actually mentioned that

parking was not included in this.

876

:

Okay.

877

:

This is just the things that

I, you know, once you're there.

878

:

Yeah.

879

:

And I mean, and they were logo.

880

:

Parking's 50 bucks like

this dumb marriage.

881

:

I was like, oh my God.

882

:

I was like, you guys

are so mean, but yeah.

883

:

Oh no.

884

:

I deleted his main comment and I

didn't even see it for like two weeks.

885

:

It was on there.

886

:

I got like a hundred likes.

887

:

I was like, oh my God.

888

:

Yeah.

889

:

So that was a main one,

but I did delete that.

890

:

But.

891

:

Did you cry?

892

:

Um, I'm man.

893

:

I got teary-eyed.

894

:

I can dish it, but I can not take it.

895

:

It was really, yeah, that was a

main one, but I just kind of, but

896

:

no, for most of them, most of them

made comments about the parking.

897

:

Okay.

898

:

And I did comment because I

actually parked downtown at the

899

:

most expensive place down there

at one of the big tourist sites.

900

:

And I was there for seven

hours and I only paid 20 bucks.

901

:

I was going to say 50 bucks.

902

:

And there's way cheaper parking

around there and there street parking.

903

:

If you.

904

:

Skill.

905

:

If you're a skilled driver.

906

:

Right.

907

:

But I'm like, I mean,

yeah, people are people.

908

:

Uh, they can be brutal, but yeah.

909

:

So if it's, if it's all bad, I don't post,

but my, thing is I'm not a food critic.

910

:

Like I'm not, you know, I don't

have my pages to bash places.

911

:

I do this to help promote places

to post about places I love to

912

:

give you recommendations about.

913

:

Places I've been invited to that.

914

:

I love like places, you know, my favorite

spots in the city that I go to over

915

:

and over just because I love them.

916

:

Yeah.

917

:

Not invited in.

918

:

And that's why I do it.

919

:

I mean, that's why I started this page.

920

:

, so if I go to a place that's having

an off night or it's a new spot

921

:

and the service was great, like

absolutely blown away by the service.

922

:

Love the look of it, the, feel, the

music, the light everything's good,

923

:

the whole vibe, but, , let's say,

, you know, two appetizers were good.

924

:

Pizza was good.

925

:

Pasta.

926

:

No.

927

:

Like barely edible dessert.

928

:

Yeah.

929

:

So-so.

930

:

Drinks we're on point.

931

:

I'll do my post, but I

will leave out the pasta.

932

:

I will say these were my

favorite things of the night.

933

:

Okay.

934

:

You know, service was good.

935

:

Vibes were good.

936

:

Pizza was good.

937

:

Burrata was good.

938

:

Leave out the pasta completely.

939

:

Yeah.

940

:

That way I have some, I mean,

I had someone today write

941

:

something on an old post.

942

:

They were like, yeah, this

place is subpar at best.

943

:

I was like, listen, douche.

944

:

Let me go to your page

and write something now.

945

:

I can share that with your

84 followers can be alone.

946

:

People, you know, they just,

you know, they like writing

947

:

their opinions on things.

948

:

I mean, I get it, but.

949

:

You know, I don't don't

like bash my thing.

950

:

Like, I'm trying to be honest with you

guys and tell you, like, all right.

951

:

I thought their pizza

was all right, but yeah.

952

:

I think there's ways you can say things

that aren't super mean and rude, you know?

953

:

Why would you even write that?

954

:

Like, I will comment.

955

:

Sometimes if something like

I'm like, oh yeah, I love that.

956

:

I've been there.

957

:

I love that.

958

:

But like if I've been to a

place and hated it, and I see

959

:

someone post a good video, I.

960

:

I didn't have no desire to comment on it.

961

:

Of course.

962

:

I may think in my head, those idiots.

963

:

Or like, I totally disagree.

964

:

Yeah, I just.

965

:

It doesn't even enter my head to comment.

966

:

Correct.

967

:

I mean, unless that restaurant,

like someone that worked there,

968

:

went out and slashed my tire.

969

:

Sure.

970

:

No, those people are terrible.

971

:

Are, you know, You know, they actually

did something personally to me.

972

:

Yes.

973

:

I just don't think to go to people's

page and write like that place sucks.

974

:

And doing it publicly is rude.

975

:

Like, yeah, Wendy and I overlapped

at a restaurant semi-recently

976

:

and privately, I messaged her.

977

:

It was like, I hope your

feed was better than mine.

978

:

And we had a little chat about

it, but it's like, there's no need

979

:

for public discourse over that.

980

:

You're talking about people's

businesses and their livelihoods and.

981

:

And opinions.

982

:

And like you said, I'm

not a literal food critic.

983

:

I'm a human, just sharing my opinion

about stuff like Keith Lee always

984

:

says, this is just my opinion.

985

:

You don't have to agree.

986

:

You can love this thing that

I hate and I don't care.

987

:

Yeah.

988

:

Yeah.

989

:

I don't know how he does it.

990

:

Getting all these threats and

the restaurants are getting.

991

:

I'm like my God, I should get

Keith Lee on this podcast.

992

:

You shouldn't imagine.

993

:

Yes, I can.

994

:

This room would implode.

995

:

My God.

996

:

Seriously, I would implode.

997

:

Wild.

998

:

That'd be awesome.

999

:

I agree.

:

00:35:42,047 --> 00:35:44,207

All right, Keith, if you're

listening, you're always

:

00:35:44,207 --> 00:35:45,407

welcome to the taco bell table.

:

00:35:46,847 --> 00:35:47,777

Okay, next question.

:

00:35:47,777 --> 00:35:52,337

What is the worst or craziest

experience you've had working

:

00:35:52,337 --> 00:35:54,437

with businesses and or brands.

:

00:35:54,437 --> 00:35:55,157

Oh, God.

:

00:35:56,567 --> 00:35:56,957

Mm.

:

00:35:57,407 --> 00:35:59,417

There's been, there's been a lot.

:

00:35:59,747 --> 00:36:02,057

Yeah, there's been, yeah,

there's been quite a few.

:

00:36:02,057 --> 00:36:03,377

I mean, most of the time.

:

00:36:03,377 --> 00:36:08,267

It's like deliverables that they're asking

me, you know, for trying to come to.

:

00:36:09,317 --> 00:36:11,177

An agreement for a project.

:

00:36:11,987 --> 00:36:14,567

, so there was one that I

did a big one this year.

:

00:36:14,597 --> 00:36:16,307

One of the biggest ones I've taken on.

:

00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:18,037

And, it just.

:

00:36:18,637 --> 00:36:21,697

I mean, it really took

10 years off my life.

:

00:36:21,757 --> 00:36:21,877

Oh God.

:

00:36:22,207 --> 00:36:24,277

It was a span over several months.

:

00:36:24,517 --> 00:36:27,081

And I mean, I, love this brand.

:

00:36:27,081 --> 00:36:28,521

I really, really do.

:

00:36:28,854 --> 00:36:30,474

I had to like that this year, but anyways.

:

00:36:30,504 --> 00:36:30,684

Yeah.

:

00:36:30,684 --> 00:36:30,954

So.

:

00:36:30,954 --> 00:36:32,784

I'm talking 20 years down in life.

:

00:36:32,934 --> 00:36:33,174

But.

:

00:36:34,404 --> 00:36:37,864

I don't know, you do these months

long projects, I mean, first of all,

:

00:36:37,864 --> 00:36:40,234

there's like a 50 page contract.

:

00:36:40,264 --> 00:36:40,714

You sign.

:

00:36:40,804 --> 00:36:41,344

Okay.

:

00:36:41,584 --> 00:36:44,224

, but then when you get down

to like actually doing.

:

00:36:44,224 --> 00:36:46,324

The project like month by month.

:

00:36:46,324 --> 00:36:49,984

You have to turn everything in

for editing before it's posted.

:

00:36:50,014 --> 00:36:52,294

And it goes through a slew of people.

:

00:36:52,414 --> 00:36:55,684

So you make your version of a final

video and then you send it to this

:

00:36:55,684 --> 00:36:57,574

brand and then they continue editing.

:

00:36:57,784 --> 00:37:01,324

Well, no, they, they sit down at

a table like, cause this was a big

:

00:37:01,354 --> 00:37:03,304

brand and they sit down at a table.

:

00:37:03,694 --> 00:37:06,874

With a group of people and

they go over that, oh my God.

:

00:37:06,994 --> 00:37:10,264

And it would be like, it

would be due on like Friday.

:

00:37:11,314 --> 00:37:14,704

And I was supposed to post it,

get feedback from them, make

:

00:37:14,704 --> 00:37:16,984

any edits, post it by Tuesday.

:

00:37:17,374 --> 00:37:19,504

I wouldn't hear back from

them for like two weeks.

:

00:37:19,594 --> 00:37:20,134

Oh, what?

:

00:37:20,224 --> 00:37:20,584

Yeah.

:

00:37:20,884 --> 00:37:24,964

And then they'd come back

and they would have 57 edits.

:

00:37:25,444 --> 00:37:27,604

And this is like a 32nd video.

:

00:37:27,634 --> 00:37:28,474

How is that possible?

:

00:37:28,474 --> 00:37:31,204

I basically have to go

refilm the whole thing again.

:

00:37:31,234 --> 00:37:32,734

Do the voiceover again.

:

00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,774

Do the text overlay again?

:

00:37:34,804 --> 00:37:36,304

I mean, just do everything again.

:

00:37:37,144 --> 00:37:39,964

And this, this went on

for like eight months.

:

00:37:40,204 --> 00:37:40,924

Oh my God.

:

00:37:40,954 --> 00:37:41,644

Every month.

:

00:37:41,724 --> 00:37:42,504

Is it out yet?

:

00:37:42,564 --> 00:37:44,394

Like as the budget it's it's finished.

:

00:37:44,454 --> 00:37:44,604

Oh.

:

00:37:44,604 --> 00:37:46,404

And so actually this project.

:

00:37:46,704 --> 00:37:49,014

They contacted me last October.

:

00:37:49,164 --> 00:37:50,004

I was in Vermont.

:

00:37:50,034 --> 00:37:52,374

I remember on a trip and

I was like, wow, holy cow.

:

00:37:52,374 --> 00:37:54,924

This is a huge brand

like, oh, this is awesome.

:

00:37:55,314 --> 00:37:56,904

And I really wanted the project.

:

00:37:56,904 --> 00:37:58,284

So I like underquoted them.

:

00:37:58,284 --> 00:37:59,184

What I normally would.

:

00:37:59,694 --> 00:38:00,804

I should have trimmed ever do that shit.

:

00:38:01,044 --> 00:38:01,524

Tripled it.

:

00:38:02,424 --> 00:38:04,884

But so this project was

supposed to be four months.

:

00:38:05,004 --> 00:38:05,724

Oh my God.

:

00:38:05,754 --> 00:38:06,024

Yeah.

:

00:38:06,054 --> 00:38:09,804

So it was supposed to be November,

December, January, February.

:

00:38:10,044 --> 00:38:10,914

Well, there was a.

:

00:38:11,454 --> 00:38:13,044

I don't know what happened in there.

:

00:38:13,314 --> 00:38:18,594

Internally, but, um, They changed how

they wanted the, the re the last two

:

00:38:18,594 --> 00:38:20,754

videos to be like the theme of it.

:

00:38:21,294 --> 00:38:22,194

And so.

:

00:38:22,794 --> 00:38:26,334

The project didn't end up getting

finished until August this year.

:

00:38:26,964 --> 00:38:27,984

Oh, my God.

:

00:38:28,134 --> 00:38:29,274

Yeah, that's wild.

:

00:38:29,514 --> 00:38:30,534

Oh, yeah.

:

00:38:31,224 --> 00:38:32,904

It's just stuff like that, that happens.

:

00:38:32,904 --> 00:38:35,244

And it's just, and I had a

couple of those this year and

:

00:38:35,244 --> 00:38:36,474

they were both really big ones.

:

00:38:36,474 --> 00:38:37,824

Like they both.

:

00:38:37,824 --> 00:38:38,484

We're very.

:

00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:42,224

Good money wise for me

and, very good on my resume.

:

00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:46,424

You know, but, oh God, they were a

lot, like I should've charged more.

:

00:38:46,964 --> 00:38:48,074

And I'm going to think about that.

:

00:38:48,434 --> 00:38:51,014

Next year, it just, I

mean, I put so many hours.

:

00:38:51,044 --> 00:38:52,424

Yeah, it's got to be worth your time.

:

00:38:52,694 --> 00:38:55,784

I mean the one, the one I was just

talking about like, oh, I don't

:

00:38:55,784 --> 00:38:58,634

know how many hundreds of hours I

put into that editing and stuff.

:

00:38:58,664 --> 00:39:00,194

I mean just, oh God.

:

00:39:00,824 --> 00:39:01,814

Work with them again?

:

00:39:01,844 --> 00:39:02,114

No.

:

00:39:02,174 --> 00:39:02,474

Okay.

:

00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:05,564

So there's no amount of publicity

that's worth the just abuse.

:

00:39:05,954 --> 00:39:07,514

Uh, no, I just, I couldn't do it again.

:

00:39:07,514 --> 00:39:08,174

It was too much.

:

00:39:08,624 --> 00:39:11,474

And I didn't charge enough, but

honestly, even if I charged them like

:

00:39:11,924 --> 00:39:13,814

double, like, no, it's not enough.

:

00:39:13,844 --> 00:39:14,024

Like.

:

00:39:14,234 --> 00:39:15,614

No, not 10 years of life now.

:

00:39:15,644 --> 00:39:15,824

Yeah.

:

00:39:16,424 --> 00:39:17,774

I've got standards and boundaries.

:

00:39:18,914 --> 00:39:19,604

That's fair.

:

00:39:19,964 --> 00:39:20,174

Yeah.

:

00:39:20,504 --> 00:39:21,374

It was a learning per se.

:

00:39:21,374 --> 00:39:21,584

Yeah.

:

00:39:21,614 --> 00:39:23,144

It was a whole learning process.

:

00:39:23,384 --> 00:39:23,744

Yeah.

:

00:39:23,804 --> 00:39:24,164

Yeah.

:

00:39:24,254 --> 00:39:24,884

But that's good.

:

00:39:24,944 --> 00:39:25,694

And again, yeah.

:

00:39:27,044 --> 00:39:28,544

, Okay, next question.

:

00:39:28,604 --> 00:39:28,904

Okay.

:

00:39:29,204 --> 00:39:30,104

Oh, there was a lot.

:

00:39:30,134 --> 00:39:34,514

Um, people really like, I, again, I, I

say that I'm not good at social media and

:

00:39:34,514 --> 00:39:37,844

our numbers are so small, but the people

that do follow us are really engaged.

:

00:39:37,844 --> 00:39:40,004

So when I post these questions,

like people are all about

:

00:39:40,004 --> 00:39:42,224

it, so that I find enjoyable.

:

00:39:42,484 --> 00:39:43,954

, you say you don't have a

lot of followers though.

:

00:39:44,044 --> 00:39:45,094

I mean, this is the same thing.

:

00:39:45,094 --> 00:39:47,134

What you've heard like your

entire life about friends.

:

00:39:47,314 --> 00:39:49,864

Like it really is like

quality over quantity.

:

00:39:49,924 --> 00:39:51,064

Yeah, I agree with that.

:

00:39:51,094 --> 00:39:54,154

Like a hundred percent, I

want more engaged followers.

:

00:39:54,184 --> 00:39:54,604

Yeah.

:

00:39:54,694 --> 00:39:56,674

Then number wise, yes.

:

00:39:57,244 --> 00:40:00,334

Yeah, I thought, I thought for a longest

time, I was like, oh, I want to hit this

:

00:40:00,334 --> 00:40:04,774

many followers, but I just, I love it

when people are engaged and like, your

:

00:40:04,774 --> 00:40:08,944

story is like, they, they comment and

they can answer if you do polls and stuff.

:

00:40:08,974 --> 00:40:09,664

I love that.

:

00:40:09,664 --> 00:40:10,924

So that's really important.

:

00:40:11,074 --> 00:40:11,764

I totally agree.

:

00:40:11,764 --> 00:40:14,554

And we'll have brands reach out to

us and I'll go to their Instagram

:

00:40:14,554 --> 00:40:16,054

and I'm like, Ooh, 85,000 followers.

:

00:40:16,054 --> 00:40:16,414

Like, fuck.

:

00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:16,624

Yeah.

:

00:40:16,934 --> 00:40:20,144

And then I go look at their posts

and it's like one comment, 12 likes.

:

00:40:20,324 --> 00:40:22,874

One comment and I'm like, are these

bots, did you pay for these followers?

:

00:40:22,964 --> 00:40:24,074

Like, it's not just no.

:

00:40:24,974 --> 00:40:26,114

, so next question.

:

00:40:26,114 --> 00:40:26,564

Okay.

:

00:40:26,684 --> 00:40:29,324

Do you ever turn down

working with anybody?

:

00:40:29,624 --> 00:40:30,404

Oh, yes.

:

00:40:31,184 --> 00:40:34,274

I think we also, the time

it depends on deliverables.

:

00:40:34,274 --> 00:40:35,474

It depends on.

:

00:40:36,104 --> 00:40:37,244

A lot of times.

:

00:40:37,874 --> 00:40:38,714

How much they'll pay.

:

00:40:38,714 --> 00:40:39,524

If it's a big brand.

:

00:40:39,824 --> 00:40:43,814

Or if it's a food place, like I just,

I don't do much outside the perimeter.

:

00:40:44,294 --> 00:40:46,034

I know there's some

great restaurants there.

:

00:40:46,394 --> 00:40:48,074

I don't have the time and I'm not.

:

00:40:48,254 --> 00:40:49,994

I have, I get road rage.

:

00:40:50,564 --> 00:40:52,184

So like driving.

:

00:40:52,514 --> 00:40:53,894

To the burbs.

:

00:40:53,924 --> 00:40:55,484

I mean, it's just not for me.

:

00:40:55,994 --> 00:40:57,614

I mean, I did it yesterday and.

:

00:40:57,914 --> 00:40:58,454

It was okay.

:

00:40:58,454 --> 00:40:58,934

Yesterday.

:

00:40:58,964 --> 00:41:02,204

I did it at three o'clock and then

I had another stop on the way back,

:

00:41:02,234 --> 00:41:05,564

But no, for the most part, I just,

I don't like being in the car.

:

00:41:05,594 --> 00:41:07,184

I don't like Atlanta drivers.

:

00:41:07,184 --> 00:41:08,414

Like I don't.

:

00:41:09,644 --> 00:41:11,654

That's a whole another

thing, but yeah, no, no, no.

:

00:41:11,774 --> 00:41:12,974

So I say no all the time.

:

00:41:13,484 --> 00:41:18,014

It depends on what it is, how much, you

know, It really depends a lot of stuff.

:

00:41:18,074 --> 00:41:18,404

Yeah.

:

00:41:18,494 --> 00:41:19,334

That makes perfect sense.

:

00:41:20,444 --> 00:41:22,124

Okay, last question.

:

00:41:22,574 --> 00:41:25,634

What are your tips on growing

a social media account?

:

00:41:26,204 --> 00:41:31,244

Oh, um, I'll say that's not my question,

but that's also, I'm dying for the answer.

:

00:41:31,424 --> 00:41:31,724

Yeah.

:

00:41:31,724 --> 00:41:35,144

So one, I mean, It's true consistency.

:

00:41:35,474 --> 00:41:36,644

It really, really is.

:

00:41:36,644 --> 00:41:41,874

And then also like nowadays, The reels

like, and you can't., you, I mean,

:

00:41:42,174 --> 00:41:46,254

how they have these templates you can

use and it's, so it's not as hard.

:

00:41:46,254 --> 00:41:49,014

And I, you know, some of

these influencers, they just

:

00:41:49,014 --> 00:41:50,394

use templates every time.

:

00:41:50,634 --> 00:41:51,864

And if you use one.

:

00:41:52,314 --> 00:41:54,384

That's trending with a trending audio.

:

00:41:54,864 --> 00:41:55,704

And your contents.

:

00:41:55,704 --> 00:41:55,974

Good.

:

00:41:55,974 --> 00:41:58,584

I mean, that can be the short

videos or what does best now?

:

00:41:58,584 --> 00:41:59,094

Like, okay.

:

00:41:59,154 --> 00:42:00,564

Under 10 seconds or less.

:

00:42:00,894 --> 00:42:03,354

And if you just do something,

especially like beauty wise,

:

00:42:03,684 --> 00:42:05,844

like, oh my God, people tick talk.

:

00:42:05,874 --> 00:42:06,354

Oh my God.

:

00:42:06,414 --> 00:42:06,924

I love it.

:

00:42:06,954 --> 00:42:08,244

I just, they love that.

:

00:42:09,024 --> 00:42:12,264

Just make it something and you have to

catch the eye within the first frame.

:

00:42:12,684 --> 00:42:16,734

Like it's got to say, or be something

like very appealing to catch the eye.

:

00:42:17,094 --> 00:42:19,284

And yeah, I would just

say like consistency.

:

00:42:19,284 --> 00:42:21,204

Like I used to post seven days a week.

:

00:42:21,864 --> 00:42:25,944

Now I post I don't post on the

weekends, unless I'm way, way behind.

:

00:42:26,334 --> 00:42:27,234

I want to take a break.

:

00:42:27,264 --> 00:42:27,744

Yeah.

:

00:42:27,984 --> 00:42:31,434

And I still do my visits on the

weekends because that's, when is best.

:

00:42:31,884 --> 00:42:35,094

Most of the time for friends and my

husband to go places when they sure.

:

00:42:35,094 --> 00:42:38,574

So I still do visits, but oh God, I

just had to take one or two days off.

:

00:42:38,814 --> 00:42:39,594

It just needed a day.

:

00:42:41,034 --> 00:42:41,514

That's fair.

:

00:42:41,574 --> 00:42:41,934

Yeah.

:

00:42:41,994 --> 00:42:43,824

Just like, oh God, I don't

want to have to post.

:

00:42:43,824 --> 00:42:47,874

And oh, a lot of people use like,

, the apps that'll auto post for ya.

:

00:42:47,904 --> 00:42:49,104

I got to like schedulers and stuff.

:

00:42:49,104 --> 00:42:49,644

I don't do that.

:

00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:51,864

Yeah, I do it live.

:

00:42:52,314 --> 00:42:54,474

I've I did the schedulers

when I first started.

:

00:42:54,534 --> 00:42:55,074

I don't like it.

:

00:42:55,344 --> 00:42:56,994

I had just another thing to do, right?

:

00:42:56,994 --> 00:42:57,294

Yeah.

:

00:42:57,384 --> 00:42:58,014

It's yeah.

:

00:42:58,074 --> 00:42:59,664

We've played with some of that stuff too.

:

00:42:59,664 --> 00:43:00,504

And I'm like, I'm overwhelmed.

:

00:43:00,504 --> 00:43:01,764

I don't want to learn a whole new app.

:

00:43:01,794 --> 00:43:02,964

I had to just like, yeah.

:

00:43:02,964 --> 00:43:04,494

I had issues with it when I did it.

:

00:43:04,524 --> 00:43:05,904

And , I mean, I'm sure

it's gotten better, but.

:

00:43:06,564 --> 00:43:08,454

It's just, yeah, it's not

for me if I don't have time

:

00:43:08,454 --> 00:43:09,534

to post and I'm not posting.

:

00:43:09,594 --> 00:43:10,014

Yeah.

:

00:43:10,074 --> 00:43:10,554

That's fair.

:

00:43:10,584 --> 00:43:11,244

That's authentic.

:

00:43:11,274 --> 00:43:11,544

Yeah.

:

00:43:11,574 --> 00:43:14,004

But yeah, I would just say like

consistency and your, I mean,

:

00:43:14,064 --> 00:43:15,384

your shit just needs to be good.

:

00:43:18,084 --> 00:43:18,534

It's got it.

:

00:43:18,564 --> 00:43:19,344

It's got to be here.

:

00:43:19,524 --> 00:43:20,904

You heard it here first, everybody.

:

00:43:21,684 --> 00:43:24,594

Honestly, like you've got to have

something to like catch the eye and

:

00:43:24,594 --> 00:43:26,064

like, sometimes I'll post a video.

:

00:43:26,064 --> 00:43:28,554

Like, I mean, honestly,

like I get burnt out.

:

00:43:28,584 --> 00:43:30,384

I mean, burnout is a real thing.

:

00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:32,004

I get it like once a month.

:

00:43:32,154 --> 00:43:36,264

Yeah, I mean, and it hits bad and

I'm just like, I am done with it.

:

00:43:36,264 --> 00:43:36,324

I'm.

:

00:43:36,324 --> 00:43:37,614

I'm done with the visits.

:

00:43:37,614 --> 00:43:38,664

Like I need a break.

:

00:43:39,084 --> 00:43:42,594

And I'll post a video that's,

you know, not up to my standards.

:

00:43:42,714 --> 00:43:45,894

Owl and I'll feel bad about

it, but what you mean?

:

00:43:45,984 --> 00:43:49,524

Hey, So it happens like don't,

hopefully you don't hit me up that

:

00:43:49,554 --> 00:43:50,724

time of the month when I'm over it.

:

00:43:50,904 --> 00:43:51,144

But.

:

00:43:52,644 --> 00:43:56,474

Not every month, but you know, it

heads and like, , the video, it

:

00:43:56,474 --> 00:43:58,034

won't do as well, but I mean, yeah.

:

00:43:58,114 --> 00:43:59,734

My videos normally take two hours.

:

00:43:59,854 --> 00:44:01,564

I probably did that video in 15 minutes.

:

00:44:01,594 --> 00:44:01,954

Okay.

:

00:44:01,984 --> 00:44:02,854

And that's what happens.

:

00:44:03,364 --> 00:44:04,654

It's not going to do as well.

:

00:44:04,924 --> 00:44:05,944

And that, and that's okay.

:

00:44:05,944 --> 00:44:07,384

It shows, and that's the thing.

:

00:44:07,384 --> 00:44:10,054

That's why you have to put, like, you

don't have to put two hours into it.

:

00:44:10,144 --> 00:44:10,354

Yeah.

:

00:44:10,414 --> 00:44:12,394

, but, and there's way

easier ways to do this.

:

00:44:12,394 --> 00:44:15,694

There's apps to make reels and

the templates on Instagram.

:

00:44:15,724 --> 00:44:18,064

They really, they help with time-saving.

:

00:44:18,424 --> 00:44:20,184

But, , I mean, it's just, you got to.

:

00:44:21,234 --> 00:44:23,874

Just stay with it and

just put in some effort.

:

00:44:23,904 --> 00:44:26,834

And also , once you do this

regularly and really stay

:

00:44:26,834 --> 00:44:28,334

consistent with it, it gets easier.

:

00:44:28,334 --> 00:44:28,874

I swear.

:

00:44:29,054 --> 00:44:30,254

I actually just met with a.

:

00:44:30,397 --> 00:44:32,857

brand owner of a tequila

company, like a month ago.

:

00:44:32,857 --> 00:44:38,377

And he, yeah, he was looking for

all the tricks to gain a following.

:

00:44:38,557 --> 00:44:39,697

Like with his brand.

:

00:44:39,727 --> 00:44:42,507

And I'm like, I mean, there's no easy.

:

00:44:42,927 --> 00:44:45,417

You know, I can't just write out

a formula for you and your, your

:

00:44:45,447 --> 00:44:46,857

numbers are going to skyrocket.

:

00:44:46,887 --> 00:44:47,247

Yeah.

:

00:44:47,457 --> 00:44:48,687

I was like everybody would, yeah.

:

00:44:48,687 --> 00:44:51,257

It's taken me years, , to

gain what I have.

:

00:44:51,257 --> 00:44:53,797

And , I don't have a budget

and followers and right.

:

00:44:53,917 --> 00:44:54,817

I'm okay with that.

:

00:44:54,867 --> 00:44:56,967

, I'm I'm happy with my pace.

:

00:44:56,967 --> 00:45:01,767

And I honestly like, I just,

I I'm doing what I want to do.

:

00:45:01,827 --> 00:45:02,367

And.

:

00:45:03,027 --> 00:45:04,857

Producing the content

that I want to produce.

:

00:45:04,917 --> 00:45:05,427

Yeah.

:

00:45:05,487 --> 00:45:06,177

So, Hey.

:

00:45:06,447 --> 00:45:09,027

You just got to stay with it, but

yeah, he was like, oh God, like,

:

00:45:09,537 --> 00:45:10,827

I don't know, how do I do this?

:

00:45:10,827 --> 00:45:11,457

How do I do this?

:

00:45:11,457 --> 00:45:13,857

Like, how do I, he doesn't even

know how to make a real adult.

:

00:45:14,397 --> 00:45:17,187

And I was just like, okay, well, I was

like, let's just start from square one.

:

00:45:17,217 --> 00:45:18,177

Do you have any kids?

:

00:45:21,627 --> 00:45:22,167

Funny enough.

:

00:45:22,167 --> 00:45:22,467

No.

:

00:45:24,687 --> 00:45:28,617

But yeah, it was just like, I mean,

there's really no easy, otherwise.

:

00:45:28,617 --> 00:45:30,177

I mean, we'd all have a million followers.

:

00:45:30,207 --> 00:45:31,017

That's exactly it.

:

00:45:31,047 --> 00:45:32,277

And the learning curve is steep.

:

00:45:32,307 --> 00:45:32,727

I feel like.

:

00:45:33,297 --> 00:45:34,317

That's fair.

:

00:45:34,737 --> 00:45:36,357

It should be it's literally not easy.

:

00:45:36,417 --> 00:45:36,627

No.

:

00:45:37,497 --> 00:45:37,947

I love it.

:

00:45:38,307 --> 00:45:40,257

Well, Wendy, is there anything

else that you want to talk

:

00:45:40,257 --> 00:45:41,757

about or share with people?

:

00:45:43,017 --> 00:45:46,767

Um, Oh, uh, yeah.

:

00:45:46,797 --> 00:45:47,967

Tip your servers.

:

00:45:48,957 --> 00:45:52,227

So I didn't touch base on this,

but I'm going to say it because

:

00:45:52,227 --> 00:45:53,547

it's my number one pet peeve.

:

00:45:53,547 --> 00:45:54,897

Since I've started doing this.

:

00:45:55,557 --> 00:45:57,267

I mean, it just drives me insane.

:

00:45:57,447 --> 00:46:01,347

'cause I, you know, I was a server,

a bartender hostess for so long.

:

00:46:01,377 --> 00:46:01,707

Yeah.

:

00:46:01,707 --> 00:46:04,857

We can invited as influencers

to all these events.

:

00:46:05,367 --> 00:46:05,817

Multiple.

:

00:46:05,817 --> 00:46:07,767

I mean, every, I mean, I

could eat at every meal.

:

00:46:08,487 --> 00:46:09,867

I mean most of us influencers.

:

00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:10,107

Good.

:

00:46:10,137 --> 00:46:10,527

Like.

:

00:46:10,617 --> 00:46:10,797

Yeah.

:

00:46:11,007 --> 00:46:13,467

I'm not saying at the nicest

restaurant in town, every meal.

:

00:46:13,677 --> 00:46:15,507

There's always somebody

who's like somebody.

:

00:46:15,537 --> 00:46:15,927

Yeah.

:

00:46:15,987 --> 00:46:17,067

But that's beside the point.

:

00:46:17,217 --> 00:46:22,497

But most of these influencers

do not tip what exactly.

:

00:46:22,857 --> 00:46:23,757

And they, and I.

:

00:46:24,117 --> 00:46:29,067

At first, I was just like completely

surprised and just dumbfounded by it.

:

00:46:29,307 --> 00:46:30,627

I was like, what?

:

00:46:31,047 --> 00:46:31,917

Like, yeah.

:

00:46:32,437 --> 00:46:36,127

, the first influencer event

I ever went to years ago.

:

00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:39,957

When my friends invited me, , she

does social media for a living.

:

00:46:40,257 --> 00:46:43,467

And so she invited me to this little

influencer event and I was just like, oh

:

00:46:43,467 --> 00:46:45,807

my God, like, I'm going to my first event.

:

00:46:45,837 --> 00:46:46,827

Oh my gosh, I made it.

:

00:46:46,827 --> 00:46:47,817

I had like a hundred dollars.

:

00:46:48,927 --> 00:46:49,287

I love it.

:

00:46:49,467 --> 00:46:53,037

And so I went to this event, I got

to meet all these other influencers.

:

00:46:53,037 --> 00:46:54,627

I thought it was so cool.

:

00:46:54,747 --> 00:46:56,157

And we'll be like, got free food.

:

00:46:56,157 --> 00:46:58,467

Cause I had been going to all

these places just on my own

:

00:46:58,737 --> 00:47:00,087

paying and then posting about it.

:

00:47:00,177 --> 00:47:02,427

Yeah, and I did that for

months and months and months.

:

00:47:02,847 --> 00:47:03,477

And.

:

00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:06,087

We went to, it was this,

this Mexican restaurant.

:

00:47:06,297 --> 00:47:08,407

And, , we already know, you

don't know anything about tacos.

:

00:47:10,237 --> 00:47:10,837

I mean.

:

00:47:11,467 --> 00:47:12,037

Too soon.

:

00:47:12,787 --> 00:47:13,237

Too soon.

:

00:47:15,427 --> 00:47:18,307

This was like for brunch, a little

Mexican restaurant and oh my God.

:

00:47:18,787 --> 00:47:19,627

It was so good.

:

00:47:19,627 --> 00:47:20,737

I loved meeting everyone.

:

00:47:21,127 --> 00:47:24,577

Well, there was, I mean, Just

say, you know, you don't get

:

00:47:24,577 --> 00:47:27,787

along with everyone, but anyways,

there was this one girl or person.

:

00:47:28,447 --> 00:47:28,927

It was a girl.

:

00:47:29,407 --> 00:47:30,277

Rubbed me the wrong way.

:

00:47:30,307 --> 00:47:32,647

We got the bill at the

end, which was zero.

:

00:47:32,707 --> 00:47:35,557

The, you know, my friend, she was

like, okay, like, of course the

:

00:47:35,557 --> 00:47:39,217

meal's free, but she's like, like

if everyone could leave a small tip.

:

00:47:39,307 --> 00:47:39,547

Yeah.

:

00:47:39,877 --> 00:47:41,467

And who are like 10 of us there.

:

00:47:41,467 --> 00:47:44,737

So, I mean, this was

Mexican food, like TexMex.

:

00:47:44,767 --> 00:47:45,187

Okay.

:

00:47:45,217 --> 00:47:49,297

So we each wouldn't have had to

tip like three or four bucks.

:

00:47:49,297 --> 00:47:50,557

Maybe if that.

:

00:47:50,557 --> 00:47:51,907

This, this person.

:

00:47:52,267 --> 00:47:53,287

Gets up from the table.

:

00:47:53,287 --> 00:47:54,997

She's like calm, not tipping.

:

00:47:55,807 --> 00:48:00,247

And I mean, she ate all the food, love

the food, and she just like stormed out of

:

00:48:00,247 --> 00:48:02,767

there and come to find out over the years.

:

00:48:02,767 --> 00:48:04,747

Like she never tips.

:

00:48:05,257 --> 00:48:05,857

Anywhere.

:

00:48:05,887 --> 00:48:07,327

And she's not the only one.

:

00:48:07,327 --> 00:48:08,287

There's quite a few.

:

00:48:08,437 --> 00:48:09,877

That's so disappointing.

:

00:48:09,907 --> 00:48:12,247

I just, I, yeah.

:

00:48:12,427 --> 00:48:15,627

And so I met with, , a PR lady yesterday.

:

00:48:16,707 --> 00:48:20,397

And we were just talking about

restaurant business and all this.

:

00:48:20,427 --> 00:48:23,187

And so at the end of the night,

I didn't even drink last night.

:

00:48:23,187 --> 00:48:26,277

I just went to kind of do videos

of holiday cocktails at this place.

:

00:48:26,787 --> 00:48:28,067

And, , I feel like, oh, let me tip.

:

00:48:28,097 --> 00:48:29,237

So I pulled out 20 bucks.

:

00:48:29,397 --> 00:48:31,167

she said, oh my God, no, no, no, I got it.

:

00:48:31,167 --> 00:48:31,557

I got it.

:

00:48:31,674 --> 00:48:32,274

I was like, what?

:

00:48:32,484 --> 00:48:34,494

I was like, no, you arranged

this whole thing for me.

:

00:48:34,494 --> 00:48:37,254

And oh, and she gave me an

appetizer at the bar and yeah.

:

00:48:37,314 --> 00:48:38,904

So I was, I just left 20 bucks.

:

00:48:38,904 --> 00:48:42,084

They brought me out like six

cocktails and I didn't even try.

:

00:48:42,144 --> 00:48:45,234

I think I tried two of them and

the rest I just took video of

:

00:48:45,264 --> 00:48:48,834

and, So I gave her 20 bucks And she

she's like, oh my God, no, no, no.

:

00:48:49,194 --> 00:48:52,554

And we, you know, we fought over

for 10 minutes and finally I

:

00:48:52,554 --> 00:48:53,784

was like, this is ridiculous.

:

00:48:53,814 --> 00:48:56,664

I was like, I, you know,

I'm not, not tipping.

:

00:48:56,724 --> 00:48:57,984

I was like, put your money away.

:

00:48:58,034 --> 00:48:59,234

And she like got teary-eyed.

:

00:48:59,684 --> 00:49:04,034

And she was like, you are the

fifth influencer in 20 years.

:

00:49:04,304 --> 00:49:05,354

To offer to tip.

:

00:49:05,354 --> 00:49:05,744

I am.

:

00:49:06,434 --> 00:49:07,814

Stand right now.

:

00:49:08,204 --> 00:49:11,744

But I kind of get onto her because

she sends these invite outs at these

:

00:49:11,744 --> 00:49:13,574

invites to influencers out every week.

:

00:49:14,114 --> 00:49:18,824

And so I kind of got onto her

because now what the PR places

:

00:49:18,824 --> 00:49:20,697

are doing they invite you in.

:

00:49:20,737 --> 00:49:24,367

They will say, okay, you're all set

up for your meal for you and a guest.

:

00:49:24,967 --> 00:49:27,427

And sometimes they'll tell you

like, okay, you can spend up

:

00:49:27,427 --> 00:49:29,737

to like $150, $200, whatever.

:

00:49:29,947 --> 00:49:31,417

Or most of the time, they'll just say.

:

00:49:31,681 --> 00:49:33,751

meals, comped and two cocktails each.

:

00:49:33,841 --> 00:49:34,291

Okay.

:

00:49:34,741 --> 00:49:35,251

Most of the time.

:

00:49:35,251 --> 00:49:38,971

That's what they'll say, but they'll

put because of these influencers that

:

00:49:38,971 --> 00:49:41,971

don't tip, they'll write in big, bold

letters at the bottom of the email.

:

00:49:42,301 --> 00:49:45,511

But gratuity is not included.

:

00:49:45,631 --> 00:49:47,701

You have to tip at least 20%.

:

00:49:48,031 --> 00:49:50,281

Well, that was what I was going to

say without knowing how this goes.

:

00:49:50,281 --> 00:49:53,851

My assumption would be you would just

tip 20% on what the bill would have been.

:

00:49:54,091 --> 00:49:54,541

Yep.

:

00:49:54,811 --> 00:49:57,841

I mean, doesn't that seem normal to

you completely, but a lot of these

:

00:49:57,841 --> 00:50:01,111

influencers apparently are like,

well, I'm doing a post for you.

:

00:50:01,111 --> 00:50:03,211

And, you know, normally I would charge.

:

00:50:03,661 --> 00:50:08,521

Five $700 for a post, but I'm

like, these are local restaurants.

:

00:50:08,731 --> 00:50:09,451

Human beat.

:

00:50:09,481 --> 00:50:10,321

Like what?

:

00:50:10,351 --> 00:50:14,501

Yeah, I just, I mean, I still can't

wrap my head around it and I used

:

00:50:14,501 --> 00:50:17,801

to host an influencer event in town

once a month at local restaurants

:

00:50:17,801 --> 00:50:20,801

when I was first starting out,

I just love planning events.

:

00:50:20,891 --> 00:50:24,371

Obviously I did it for years, but I

just love putting the events together.

:

00:50:24,731 --> 00:50:27,671

And I loved meeting all the

different influencers and promoting.

:

00:50:28,121 --> 00:50:30,641

These little restaurants are not

even little restaurants, just

:

00:50:30,671 --> 00:50:31,991

great restaurants that I loved.

:

00:50:32,021 --> 00:50:32,411

Yeah.

:

00:50:32,501 --> 00:50:38,311

And, , I remember I invited one person

and they asked if the restaurant

:

00:50:38,311 --> 00:50:40,771

would pay for her valet and her gas.

:

00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:43,111

You can't see me right

now, but my jaw is dropped.

:

00:50:43,531 --> 00:50:47,641

Oh, I D I mean, I deleted

her from everything.

:

00:50:47,701 --> 00:50:48,421

You're experts.

:

00:50:49,571 --> 00:50:50,621

The person didn't have that many.

:

00:50:51,281 --> 00:50:54,431

Yeah, it didn't have that

many followers, but also.

:

00:50:55,091 --> 00:50:56,861

Most of these people,

this is not what they do.

:

00:50:56,861 --> 00:50:57,401

Full-time.

:

00:50:57,671 --> 00:50:58,661

So they're working.

:

00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:04,564

And also, if you don't have money

for gas, Don't leave your house.

:

00:51:04,594 --> 00:51:05,074

Correct.

:

00:51:05,254 --> 00:51:06,394

And if you don't have money for a tip.

:

00:51:06,604 --> 00:51:07,504

You can't go out to eat.

:

00:51:07,534 --> 00:51:08,524

Don't go out to eat.

:

00:51:08,554 --> 00:51:12,304

Yeah, I just, I, and I still, I

refuse to like accept it, but the

:

00:51:12,304 --> 00:51:13,474

lady last night was telling me.

:

00:51:13,924 --> 00:51:17,254

, she was like, oh my God, PR

agencies are like riding the 20%

:

00:51:17,254 --> 00:51:18,334

thing at the bottom of the email.

:

00:51:18,334 --> 00:51:20,674

I was like a hundred

percent, almost all of them.

:

00:51:21,064 --> 00:51:22,474

And I was like, you should too.

:

00:51:22,534 --> 00:51:23,284

Totally.

:

00:51:23,314 --> 00:51:26,674

And she was like, oh, well, there's like

an influencer coming tonight for a dinner.

:

00:51:26,704 --> 00:51:31,014

And, , tomorrow for a lunch and

this I'm just like, and you just

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00:51:31,014 --> 00:51:32,244

pay for the tip for all of them.

:

00:51:32,244 --> 00:51:32,994

And she's like, yeah.

:

00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:33,924

Okay.

:

00:51:33,924 --> 00:51:37,944

So at least in those cases, if the

influencer isn't tipping, she is she okay?

:

00:51:37,944 --> 00:51:38,304

Yeah.

:

00:51:38,364 --> 00:51:40,164

Well, at least the stats

can be easy though.

:

00:51:40,254 --> 00:51:41,364

That is completely crazy.

:

00:51:41,514 --> 00:51:44,484

Our lady should not be dipping for you.

:

00:51:44,514 --> 00:51:44,994

Like.

:

00:51:45,234 --> 00:51:46,764

You ain't got money to leave a tip.

:

00:51:46,824 --> 00:51:47,304

Yeah.

:

00:51:47,514 --> 00:51:52,014

And I mean, Oh, and one thing, like,

people don't know, like, yes, I get

:

00:51:52,104 --> 00:51:55,974

a ton of free meals and drinks and

I mean, I get a ton of free stuff.

:

00:51:56,004 --> 00:51:56,844

I really do.

:

00:51:57,534 --> 00:52:02,004

I tip and I took at least

20%, these tips out up, I just

:

00:52:02,004 --> 00:52:03,794

went to a Crazy sushi thing.

:

00:52:03,794 --> 00:52:07,094

And the bill was $500 or more.

:

00:52:07,544 --> 00:52:10,994

You know, And you tip 20% on that, plus

you pay for valet and this and that.

:

00:52:11,054 --> 00:52:11,474

Yeah.

:

00:52:11,534 --> 00:52:14,864

And I went to like, you know,

eight restaurants that week.

:

00:52:14,894 --> 00:52:15,074

Yeah.

:

00:52:15,734 --> 00:52:16,934

I spend a lot in tips.

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00:52:16,934 --> 00:52:17,414

Yeah.

:

00:52:17,474 --> 00:52:21,644

So it's not, but I pay,

I'm happy to do it right.

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00:52:21,884 --> 00:52:22,244

I'm happy.

:

00:52:22,244 --> 00:52:23,534

You're not a terrible person.

:

00:52:23,684 --> 00:52:26,054

I mean, that's the one thing

that like completely blew

:

00:52:26,054 --> 00:52:27,374

my mind by this whole thing.

:

00:52:27,704 --> 00:52:30,554

And I think a lot of people don't know

that they maybe they just, or maybe they

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00:52:30,554 --> 00:52:31,934

just, I don't know what people think.

:

00:52:32,444 --> 00:52:34,844

I always just assumed of course you dip.

:

00:52:35,174 --> 00:52:36,734

I assume the absolute same.

:

00:52:36,974 --> 00:52:39,524

Why wouldn't you, but maybe some

people just think, oh, that's

:

00:52:39,524 --> 00:52:43,514

included, or I don't know, but me, I

was just completely shocked by that.

:

00:52:43,574 --> 00:52:46,874

Even if it's included, I would F

I would feel like, Hey, you just

:

00:52:46,874 --> 00:52:48,674

gave me $150 a meal for free.

:

00:52:48,674 --> 00:52:50,714

Like, yeah, let me

compensate you for your time.

:

00:52:50,894 --> 00:52:51,464

Thank you.

:

00:52:51,554 --> 00:52:51,824

Yeah.

:

00:52:52,064 --> 00:52:52,544

Whoa.

:

00:52:52,704 --> 00:52:54,354

, it's funny, you mentioned this because I.

:

00:52:54,354 --> 00:52:56,964

Hopefully next year, but at some

point I'm writing an etiquette book

:

00:52:57,234 --> 00:52:59,724

and tipping is a huge thing for me.

:

00:52:59,914 --> 00:53:03,064

, I've owned a salon for 10 years

from the day I opened my doors.

:

00:53:03,064 --> 00:53:05,884

It's been a gratuity free environment

because I think tipping is just

:

00:53:05,884 --> 00:53:10,114

such a hot topic and a professional

should charge what they're worth.

:

00:53:10,414 --> 00:53:12,634

But when you're talking about the

service industry and there's somebody

:

00:53:12,664 --> 00:53:14,374

who's getting paid, what $5 an hour.

:

00:53:14,424 --> 00:53:17,334

That tip you mentally need to

prepare for it in your meal.

:

00:53:17,844 --> 00:53:18,654

Oh, you can't go out to eat.

:

00:53:18,954 --> 00:53:22,444

And one of my favorite ex-boyfriends

Martin, , he's a German guy.

:

00:53:22,684 --> 00:53:23,944

And that he.

:

00:53:24,004 --> 00:53:25,054

You know, you don't tip like that.

:

00:53:25,084 --> 00:53:27,724

You round up a little, it was

super good in Europe, but it's

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00:53:27,724 --> 00:53:30,814

all included because they actually

pay a living wage to their servers.

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00:53:31,084 --> 00:53:33,514

, That's another episode,

but we will go out to eat.

:

00:53:33,514 --> 00:53:36,244

And when he would pick up the

bill, I would glance over it.

:

00:53:36,244 --> 00:53:40,084

And I'm like, Martin, you

can't tip $5 on $170 a meal.

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00:53:40,114 --> 00:53:42,094

He was like, yo, Eric,

I don't know why not.

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00:53:42,094 --> 00:53:43,384

I don't understand this tipping.

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00:53:43,684 --> 00:53:44,224

And I'm like Martin?

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00:53:44,284 --> 00:53:44,524

No.

:

00:53:44,584 --> 00:53:47,914

And like, I would always have cash with

me when I knew he was taking me out and

:

00:53:47,914 --> 00:53:49,414

like, I'd be like, oh, go get the car.

:

00:53:49,414 --> 00:53:51,524

And I'd throw down a bunch

of extra cash to tip people.

:

00:53:51,554 --> 00:53:52,454

Cause I'm like, what the fuck?

:

00:53:52,724 --> 00:53:55,874

But like his excuses, culturally,

this is completely different.

:

00:53:55,874 --> 00:54:00,224

But if you live here and you've grown up

and you've been in public, you know, damn

:

00:54:00,224 --> 00:54:02,114

well, there's an expectation of a tip.

:

00:54:02,174 --> 00:54:02,444

Yeah.

:

00:54:02,714 --> 00:54:04,394

It blows my mind when people are.

:

00:54:04,394 --> 00:54:05,324

Cheap it's cheap.

:

00:54:05,324 --> 00:54:05,684

It's cheap.

:

00:54:05,684 --> 00:54:06,344

That's the bottom line.

:

00:54:06,824 --> 00:54:08,744

Yeah, it's it makes no sense to me at all.

:

00:54:08,804 --> 00:54:11,564

And I know that's something

I just won't get over.

:

00:54:11,624 --> 00:54:13,304

Like I'm not over it.

:

00:54:15,284 --> 00:54:16,244

I'm glad you shared that.

:

00:54:16,244 --> 00:54:20,774

If one person listening is an influencer

who doesn't tip and they're like, oh,

:

00:54:20,804 --> 00:54:22,754

damn, then this episode is worth it.

:

00:54:24,494 --> 00:54:26,264

They're probably like,

well, of course I don't tip.

:

00:54:26,894 --> 00:54:30,824

I do a video for them, but

I'm just, I mean, Hey, it's

:

00:54:30,824 --> 00:54:32,114

just, it's not cool for me.

:

00:54:32,114 --> 00:54:34,064

Like it's cool for people to do that.

:

00:54:34,094 --> 00:54:35,024

I'm not for it.

:

00:54:35,204 --> 00:54:36,644

No, like I'm with you.

:

00:54:37,244 --> 00:54:40,184

I'm with you, but yeah, that's

most surprising thing also.

:

00:54:40,184 --> 00:54:43,514

I really liked the idea that

you don't do gratuity, right?

:

00:54:43,974 --> 00:54:45,984

Whenever I get like beauty services done.

:

00:54:46,014 --> 00:54:49,314

I never, because you're already

paying like hundreds of dollars,

:

00:54:49,344 --> 00:54:52,344

large amount cracked, and I'm

always like, how much do I tip?

:

00:54:52,944 --> 00:54:54,834

Well, the answer is 20%.

:

00:54:55,044 --> 00:54:56,244

I mean, that's just like standard.

:

00:54:56,364 --> 00:55:00,404

However, to me, , if you were a licensed

professional, You don't tip a doctor.

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00:55:00,404 --> 00:55:01,244

You don't tip a lawyer.

:

00:55:01,304 --> 00:55:01,484

Yeah.

:

00:55:01,604 --> 00:55:02,954

Charge, whatever the amount is.

:

00:55:02,954 --> 00:55:05,444

And then why are you

leaving 20% of your income?

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00:55:05,744 --> 00:55:06,944

Up to grabs like.

:

00:55:07,244 --> 00:55:07,394

No.

:

00:55:07,394 --> 00:55:07,814

Thanks.

:

00:55:08,234 --> 00:55:09,074

This is the price.

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00:55:09,584 --> 00:55:10,814

The end and there's that.

:

00:55:10,904 --> 00:55:13,664

You know that moment when they spin the

iPad around, it's like, it's just going

:

00:55:13,694 --> 00:55:16,184

to ask you a couple of little questions

and then the person who just cut your hair

:

00:55:16,184 --> 00:55:17,564

standing right there over your shoulder.

:

00:55:17,564 --> 00:55:19,394

And it's like, you're relaxed.

:

00:55:19,394 --> 00:55:20,024

You're feeling good.

:

00:55:20,024 --> 00:55:23,264

And then you get this tension right

at the end and it's like, so stupid.

:

00:55:23,414 --> 00:55:23,774

Yeah.

:

00:55:23,804 --> 00:55:24,104

So.

:

00:55:24,494 --> 00:55:24,764

Hmm.

:

00:55:24,764 --> 00:55:25,364

Yeah, I like that.

:

00:55:25,394 --> 00:55:25,844

You do that.

:

00:55:26,054 --> 00:55:26,474

Thank you.

:

00:55:27,524 --> 00:55:28,544

All my clients do to you.

:

00:55:28,574 --> 00:55:29,504

I mean, people love it.

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00:55:29,534 --> 00:55:32,794

And, , I'm no influencer, but I know

that I have friends in the industry

:

00:55:32,794 --> 00:55:34,644

who have adopted that same, process.

:

00:55:34,644 --> 00:55:35,304

And it's just.

:

00:55:35,694 --> 00:55:39,564

It elevates your profession and it just,

nobody likes to pink, but you have to tip

:

00:55:39,594 --> 00:55:42,024

when you're in the service industry, when

you're talking about food and drinks and

:

00:55:42,024 --> 00:55:43,404

stuff like that, it's just not optional.

:

00:55:43,584 --> 00:55:43,944

Hmm.

:

00:55:44,994 --> 00:55:49,404

I would tell my salon to do that,

but I guess it'd be kind of hard if

:

00:55:49,404 --> 00:55:52,074

you've had clients for like years

and years, and then all of a sudden

:

00:55:52,074 --> 00:55:53,364

you're like, Hey, we're doing this now.

:

00:55:53,364 --> 00:55:54,474

I don't know if they'd like it.

:

00:55:54,654 --> 00:55:55,014

They will.

:

00:55:55,014 --> 00:55:56,784

I w I can confirm that they'll love it.

:

00:55:56,844 --> 00:55:57,744

Cause I did the same thing.

:

00:55:57,744 --> 00:56:00,384

Cause I worked, you know, I spent

the first half of my career working

:

00:56:00,384 --> 00:56:03,234

in just like a classic salon

model where, you know, a haircut

:

00:56:03,234 --> 00:56:05,544

$75 and you tip $15 on top of it.

:

00:56:05,544 --> 00:56:05,634

And.

:

00:56:06,424 --> 00:56:08,284

, and so I was like, Hey,

I'm raising my prices.

:

00:56:08,284 --> 00:56:12,424

And it's the price that I raised it to you

is what the price was with the 20% tip.

:

00:56:12,634 --> 00:56:14,374

And so then I got people

used to that for a year.

:

00:56:14,404 --> 00:56:16,414

And then every couple of years

I raised my prices from there.

:

00:56:16,414 --> 00:56:18,544

And you just, it's all

about just training people.

:

00:56:18,604 --> 00:56:18,904

Yeah.

:

00:56:19,204 --> 00:56:20,044

But everybody loves it.

:

00:56:20,044 --> 00:56:22,804

Cause it's like you go in and

there's no shock or surprise,

:

00:56:22,804 --> 00:56:23,794

the price is the price.

:

00:56:24,124 --> 00:56:25,114

And it's like, all right, cool.

:

00:56:25,174 --> 00:56:25,834

Do you in eight weeks?

:

00:56:27,244 --> 00:56:28,804

I like that rinse and repeat.

:

00:56:28,954 --> 00:56:29,314

Yeah.

:

00:56:29,414 --> 00:56:32,474

, so when do you, will you share with us

your social media and where everybody can

:

00:56:32,474 --> 00:56:34,484

find you and all of your amazing contents?

:

00:56:34,754 --> 00:56:35,384

Yes.

:

00:56:35,444 --> 00:56:35,894

So

:

00:56:35,934 --> 00:56:37,554

I'm most active on Instagram.

:

00:56:37,584 --> 00:56:38,574

, the bubbly talk.

:

00:56:39,084 --> 00:56:39,414

Perfect.

:

00:56:39,414 --> 00:56:39,774

Yup.

:

00:56:39,834 --> 00:56:43,254

Bubbly and it's oh, my name is

actually, I want to clear this up.

:

00:56:43,764 --> 00:56:45,834

I get sent a lot of champagne.

:

00:56:46,164 --> 00:56:48,564

I mean all the time, every week.

:

00:56:48,924 --> 00:56:50,244

Can we send you champagne?

:

00:56:50,394 --> 00:56:51,384

Do you want to work with us?

:

00:56:51,594 --> 00:56:54,144

I actually don't really like champagne.

:

00:56:54,174 --> 00:56:54,864

Oh, wow.

:

00:56:55,944 --> 00:56:58,764

Yeah, I'll have one glass

that's about it, but okay.

:

00:56:59,064 --> 00:57:01,734

I mean, I like a really good

glass of champagne, right.

:

00:57:01,824 --> 00:57:05,414

But, you know, on spec, you know,

special occasions or some, but, , No,

:

00:57:05,414 --> 00:57:07,394

it's just for probably personality wise.

:

00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:08,144

Yeah.

:

00:57:08,264 --> 00:57:08,774

That's all.

:

00:57:08,774 --> 00:57:12,584

It was like, I just thought

the name was cute and my friend

:

00:57:12,584 --> 00:57:14,024

came up with a logo for it.

:

00:57:14,084 --> 00:57:15,074

That was really cute.

:

00:57:15,104 --> 00:57:15,764

And.

:

00:57:16,064 --> 00:57:17,294

That's what the name is from.

:

00:57:17,504 --> 00:57:20,564

So I still love you Dom.

:

00:57:20,594 --> 00:57:22,094

Like I will work with you.

:

00:57:22,424 --> 00:57:26,084

But I love your products, but, , no.

:

00:57:26,624 --> 00:57:27,914

My name is not after champagne.

:

00:57:28,274 --> 00:57:29,324

I feel like that's a good thing too.

:

00:57:29,564 --> 00:57:30,284

To clarify.

:

00:57:30,344 --> 00:57:30,554

Yeah.

:

00:57:30,854 --> 00:57:31,814

Everyone thinks it is.

:

00:57:31,814 --> 00:57:33,464

They're like, oh, you big champagne lover.

:

00:57:33,494 --> 00:57:34,814

I'm like, I mean, yeah.

:

00:57:35,534 --> 00:57:36,554

I'm just a bubbly bombed.

:

00:57:38,894 --> 00:57:40,934

. And I actually was going

to start a podcast.

:

00:57:41,144 --> 00:57:42,554

That was my whole thing I was going to do.

:

00:57:43,184 --> 00:57:45,524

I had no intention of

like do an Instagram.

:

00:57:45,554 --> 00:57:46,724

I was going to do a podcast.

:

00:57:47,174 --> 00:57:48,914

Then I realized I don't like talking.

:

00:57:49,614 --> 00:57:50,964

That's why I don't talk on my reels.

:

00:57:50,964 --> 00:57:52,104

I don't talk on my stories.

:

00:57:52,104 --> 00:57:53,154

I can't stand it.

:

00:57:53,154 --> 00:57:55,944

I really hate listening to

other people talk except you,

:

00:57:55,944 --> 00:57:56,964

you have a very nice voice.

:

00:57:57,204 --> 00:57:57,594

Thank you.

:

00:57:57,984 --> 00:57:58,794

I like you.

:

00:57:58,824 --> 00:57:58,884

I.

:

00:57:58,914 --> 00:58:00,654

I like your voice and Heather McMahon.

:

00:58:01,014 --> 00:58:04,164

Yeah, I can listen to her all day long

and she just has a voice that like

:

00:58:04,194 --> 00:58:06,084

doesn't bother me, but most people.

:

00:58:06,504 --> 00:58:07,464

I don't like their voice.

:

00:58:07,674 --> 00:58:10,344

I listened to all my

stories and stuff on silent.

:

00:58:10,464 --> 00:58:11,184

Oh, funny.

:

00:58:11,244 --> 00:58:11,934

And I like it.

:

00:58:11,934 --> 00:58:14,004

That's why I like it when

they have the texts come up.

:

00:58:14,004 --> 00:58:15,054

So, you know what they're saying?

:

00:58:15,594 --> 00:58:17,664

But, yeah, so I was like, podcast is out.

:

00:58:19,254 --> 00:58:20,454

I can't listen to myself.

:

00:58:20,544 --> 00:58:21,624

That's so funny.

:

00:58:21,774 --> 00:58:22,584

I think you have a nice way.

:

00:58:22,644 --> 00:58:26,574

I think everybody thinks their own voice

sounds weird, but I don't like, I mean,

:

00:58:26,574 --> 00:58:28,464

I definitely sound like I'm Southern.

:

00:58:29,694 --> 00:58:30,324

A hundred percent.

:

00:58:31,644 --> 00:58:33,084

What are the first call you a dumb hick.

:

00:58:33,894 --> 00:58:35,454

I mean, I wouldn't go that far.

:

00:58:35,754 --> 00:58:37,314

But when you.

:

00:58:38,124 --> 00:58:39,774

You asked me where I was from.

:

00:58:39,774 --> 00:58:41,574

Like, they're like, oh

yeah, she's from Merriville.

:

00:58:43,404 --> 00:58:43,854

Nailed it.

:

00:58:43,914 --> 00:58:45,324

She's from outside Knoxville.

:

00:58:45,384 --> 00:58:45,744

Oh yeah.

:

00:58:45,804 --> 00:58:46,884

She's a Tennessee girl.

:

00:58:47,094 --> 00:58:47,724

We hear it.

:

00:58:47,904 --> 00:58:49,224

Does it come out more when you drink?

:

00:58:49,284 --> 00:58:50,454

Oh, oh yeah.

:

00:58:51,024 --> 00:58:54,264

Get me on my mom drunk and see

that two glasses of wine and

:

00:58:54,264 --> 00:58:55,794

just, oh God, it's a, he haul.

:

00:58:56,004 --> 00:58:56,394

Oh, no.

:

00:58:58,794 --> 00:58:59,484

That's so fun.

:

00:58:59,964 --> 00:59:01,644

And my whole family, like my mom's side.

:

00:59:01,674 --> 00:59:02,364

Oh my God.

:

00:59:02,634 --> 00:59:04,644

During the holidays, like

get a group together.

:

00:59:05,034 --> 00:59:06,564

It is just no.

:

00:59:06,774 --> 00:59:09,294

Well, this, I bet that's adorable.

:

00:59:09,924 --> 00:59:10,284

No.

:

00:59:10,344 --> 00:59:10,854

It's like.

:

00:59:11,244 --> 00:59:12,204

It's just a bunch of.

:

00:59:12,474 --> 00:59:13,824

Uh, no.

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00:59:14,334 --> 00:59:16,764

I mean, it's like down

country where I'm bro.

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I love it, especially

my mom where she's from.

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Oh my God.

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When I tell you like the whole family.

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We won't get into that.

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That's another day.

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I love it.

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Well, you're always welcome

back to do more podcasts.

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If you want to talk about

your family tree or no.

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Or hiring.

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Did I say he on.

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But it's a whole year.

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Oh, yeah, let's delete that.

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I will, if you judge.

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It was cute though.

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But yeah, the bubbly talk,

Instagram is my most.

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Used one.

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I'm on tic-tac I'm on all of them.

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Pinterest.

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I'm not on YouTube, but yeah,

Instagram is the main one to find me.

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That's where I spend my time.

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Okay, perfect.

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Well, everybody give, when do you follow?

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And we will link her accounts to

our show notes and of course the

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post about her and, and link on

her Instagram and stuff like that.

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And we thank you so much for your

time and for listening to today's

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episode, I hope you, , Enjoyed getting

a behind the veil of influencing.

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I know I learned a lot, , as

always@cloverclublistenersgettenpercentoffathawkinsandkluber.com

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with promo code.

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Clover club, all caps, and you can find

us at clever cloud pod on Instagram.

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01:00:29,044 --> 01:00:31,694

And, , yeah, Wendy, thank you so much in.

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We'll look forward to

seeing everyone next week.

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01:00:34,184 --> 01:00:34,574

Yes.

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Thank you for having me.

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Thank you, Wendy.

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Bye everyone.

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Curious conversations and stories intended to make you laugh and learn.
As a shop owner and hair stylist with an impressive number of stamps on her passport, Erika Audrey has heard or experienced it all. And she's ready to share. These real life conversations and stories will make you laugh, cry, and gasp- sometimes in the same episode! Join Erika Audrey straight from Atlanta gift shop Hawkins & Clover. Welcome to Clover Club.

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Erika Audrey, a luminous presence hailing from the vibrant city of Atlanta, Georgia, is not your ordinary hairstylist and boutique owner. With a zest for life that's as contagious as her laughter, Erika is poised to take the podcasting world by storm as she embarks on her latest venture.

Launching her debut podcast is a natural extension of Erika's multifaceted personality. With an uncanny ability to seamlessly weave humor into her conversations, Erika's laughter-inducing anecdotes and razor-sharp wit are bound to captivate listeners. Her intelligence shines through as she tackles a diverse range of topics, proving that beneath the laughter lies substance and insight.